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Hi people,
Here's the alpha 2, a quick release behind the first version with many improvements.
First improvement is the introduction of an advanced lens model for fisheyes ( this model goes beyond panotools model, so stitch are better than with panotools related tools ! ) It's magical. On any panorama I have tested so far, it just does a perfect job.
This thread can show some of the results given, but I'm sure his author will just be surprised : http://forum.autopano.net/t1890-1.4-a1- … 8mm-f-3.5.
BTW : for fisheye : use high detection quality and check advanced lens correction to see the result ( don't forget to check exif and circular crop zone first ).
There are still many bug open on the UI, but we really wanted to release a second version quickly. Next one is planned with UI fixed in two weeks from now.
http://en.wiki.autopano.net/Latest_Beta
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But my panoramas - is not perfect
No results
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Thanks for the Mac build. Looks good so far.
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As I said to you, Panorama fanatic, both cases you provided are a bit off limit. I will first concentrate on standard fisheyes panoramas then I'll look at your "kind of shooting".
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Very nice Alexandre. ![]()
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Frederik wrote:
Thanks for the Mac build. Looks good so far.
Yep! Agree! Thank you, Alexandre!
best, Klaus
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Congratulation Alexandre,
The Linux version rocks. So far the most stable "of them all", at least on SuSE10.1! Finally free of Wine and/or Windows. :-)
Thank you, Tomas
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Alexandre, the similar result has user of Nikor 10 ![]()
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awesome! I'll check it out! Tomorrow at work I'll give it a few rounds on some fisheyes! (1Ds2 and the new Sigma 8mm) I'm excited about that, fisheyes area quick and easy way for us to capture an environment! And now that HDR stuff has been fixed, autopano is going to work out great for us! Great update Alexandre!
A quick question on the image positioning, previously when I would move an image around (an image that could not grab any control points, and currently no way to manually add points), the moved images (that had no CPs) would all snap back to their origin point instead of staying where I moved them when I would re-calculate the stitch (with other images that had new/updated Control Points) Does the moving around of images still work in this way? Will 'permanent' moving of the images that stick in their place be a seperate feature from adding manual control points? Or will adding manual control points be the only way to make a rouge image stick in place if it can't ever find CPs on it's own?
Last edited by Daniel_Buck (2007-07-02 01:51:56)
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You have access to a context menu on picture with no link in the control point editor to snap them to a neightboor. This way, you lock the picture by adding false cp and it will move during optimization.
hankkarl wrote:
Do the advanced lens model parameters also apply to rectilinear lenses?
We also have an advanced lens model for standard lenses, but for the moment, I've desactivated it to concentrate on fisheye. But yes, it will available for any lens and on some tricky case, it gives good results on standard lens.
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AlexandreJ wrote:
You have access to a context menu on picture with no link in the control point editor to snap them to a neightboor. This way, you lock the picture by adding false cp and it will move during optimization.
What about sub-panoramas? I forced all pictures to the same panorama, and got an unlinked pano with two pictures and a larger pano. Can these also be locked?
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APP 1.4 A2 seems to detect panos with a lot more accuracy than before. Its not just a lower RMS--the panos look better and don't need nearly as much work after detection.
Congratulations! (I can't wait to see what the advanced lens model for standard lenses does!)
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hankkarl wrote:
APP 1.4 A2 seems to detect panos with a lot more accuracy than before. Its not just a lower RMS--the panos look better and don't need nearly as much work after detection.
Same feeling there!
APP can stitch some 360x180 panos I was very proud I had managed to stitch thanks to accurately (and manually) positioned CPs, wisely conducted step by step optimizations and very complex multi-layered PSD.
shame on you ![]()
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Yes, this version gives better result, beyond any other version. The main reason ? I have the strong feeling that it mainly comes from the fact that I solved a bug relative to multiple CP on same location.
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Alexandre, did you test support of Nikorr 10mm fish-eye?
When do you plan to fix bug with Zenitar 16?
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Nikkor 10mm is working perfectly. I own myself one and APP just stitch them without any issue. For the zenitar, perhaps in next alpha.
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OK. I will ask man with Nikor to send you his project, after he test A2 and confirm his bugs
Will wait for next alpha, thanks ... I afraided to wait for 1.5 alpha ![]()
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Tried it out on a few 180 fisheyes at work (only .jpgs for now) and I like it, works great! :-) I ended up using Maximum detection quality, and 150 CP key points for the best results on mine.
Last edited by Daniel_Buck (2007-07-02 21:48:11)
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AlexandreJ wrote:
I have the strong feeling that it mainly comes from the fact that I solved a bug relative to multiple CP on same location.
I was quite surprised you didn't give more attention to this "horrid bug" (possibly removing unwanted CPs afterward!) BTW, that few peoples complained about it was a surprise, too: probably few APP users are taking care of CPs at this level of details and I suppose this is the right way to follow when using APP. As an example, I can see a moderate number of CPs on moving clouds in the panorama I'm presently stitching but this results in no visible harm in the final image. That SIFt places CPs in locations where I can't decide whether they are right or wrong and don't place any at locations where I could place good ones is disturbing. Changing my "PT habits" needs time, happily this looks like being still possible ![]()
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Will there be a windows x64 build of 1.4?
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alpha2 - messed up
I tested fisheye with alpha1, which worked ok except of strange borders between the images when rendered
http://www.wishbone-design.de/autopano141-borders.jpg
They didn't quite appear in the preview window
http://www.wishbone-design.de/autopano141-preview.jpg
ok I waited until the alpha2 came, but now - everything messed up!
http://www.wishbone-design.de/autopano142-messed-up.jpg
I used only the 6 most imported images to check ...
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To anna. Do not hesitate to share the picture with me. I'll check the software against them and tell you how to do stitch them with autopano.
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To foundation : yes, v1.4 will be build in x64 for windows and linux.
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